Friday, September 02, 2005


We've been waiting and waiting. The time is finally approaching. Grab your popcorn and sit by Dr. Cowen is going to release his secret master plan within the next "48 hours."

Let me preface this blog by stating that I do think Dr. Cowen is an unbelievable leader and will actually come up with a feasible strategy for some students. But what do you think this strategy will be? Will he be able to relocate everyone to one campus or have to spread everyone out? I think he's going to have a plan to start school right away. Who will want to do this and who will want to stay home? A lot of people will be on both sides, but I think we need to stick together.

I'd advocate that if the plan sounds good, everyone should try to do it. Let's wait until he releases it before everyone starts deciding yes or no. It could be fun. Imagine being in a random city for the semester, but with a bunch of wild Tulane kids. We would run the city, and the school. Moreover, Tulane needs this support. If we show both the world and prospective students how much we love Tulane, I think they will realize that there is something magical about Tulane. I think that we can save Tulane simply by showing unmitigated support for any of their ideas, by at least considering whatever they come up with. Moreover, I'd like to say we should probably wait until this plan comes out before we finalize plans. I know that lots of people are talking about going to one school or another for the semester and then coming back to Tulane when they are ready. That’s fine, but let’s really consider the benefits of all going somewhere in Texas possibly TOGETHER, as opposed to spreading out all over the U.S.

Sometimes we forget that part what makes Tulane so special is the mixture of people who go there. Those of you who are older know this in your hearts. I would have a great time in the middle of the desert if I had a Boot and my amazing group of friends. How many of you feel the same? Hence, I appeal to the older people to remember this when they feel like transferring for the semester. Do you really need to go somewhere else, or are you willing to try something new? To the incoming freshmen, I recommend definitely partaking in whatever Tulane has to offer. You have NOTHING to lose.I hear freshmen say they want "a freshmen year experience." I totally agree, and I bet Dr. Cowen finds a way to accomodate it. And even if he doesn't, we should accept that sometimes everything doesn't work out perfectly. A little sacrifice in the name of Tulane will provide for a much more cohesive class (I think you all will be best friends). Regardless, I think Dr. Cowen will find a way to get all the incoming freshmen together. You will be with all the people who will be your future friends, and feel very at home when Tulane comes back online. I think if Tulane organizes something that keeps you together, or even splits you up a little bit- then it’s a blessing in disguise.

So let’s see what happens, hope for a miracle, and pray for Tulane’s ultimate comeback.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sometimes we forget that part of what makes Tulane so special is the mixture of people who go there." Nothing is more true than this statement. There is no doubt in my mind that we will all get back to normal much sooner if we work together rather than we give up and split up. The Tulane community is so special, so beautiful, so TOUGH (think: mardi gras, late nights at the boot followed by 8am midterms, etc). Let's stick together and rally behind whatever Dr. Cowen deems the best plan. Tulane has always been there for us, whether through great faculty, amazing opportunities, modern facilities on campus, or hell even the annual "special film" at mcalister. Now more than ever, Tulane needs its students. I believe in Tulane's spirit and I believe in us. Roll wave.

1:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This site has been the most informative site for Tulane students and I firmly believe that everything will fall into place. Cowen is an intelligent man as well as a great leader and I have little doubt that he'll pull through for his university.

2:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm one of the Freshmen and I'm not going anywhere. I picked Tulane for a reason and I'm going wait for it to open again. Cowen is a great leader and things will be up and running before we know it. I agree that we need to stay together to make sure Tulane comes back stronge. Thanks for all the great info.

4:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just being realistic (not pessimisstic, cause believe me, I've been counting down the days until I went back since about May), but I'm not sure that Tulane will be centralized... what school can accomodate us all? Based on what Dr. Cowen said on MSNBC last night, it sounds like he's been calling every school known to man to find us places... so while we may not be united physically, we'll all still have a place to get an education. Dr. Cowen is doing an amazing job... and anybody who says differently is a total and complete idiot. There wouldn't be a Tulane as we know it without Dr. Cowen. I'm with everybody else... what Dr. Cowen says, is law.

4:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I attended Tulane back in the Eamon Kelly days. Very few universities are lucky enough to have a President like Scott Cowan. Even if one has to attend another school for a semester, I agree that students should give Tulane and New Orleans a second chance.

7:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they will have a few courses available through some online source. we already have a lot of teachers who put all their notes on blackboard.

7:16 AM  
Blogger CTDAD said...

What about using a closed military base as a satellite campus until New Orleans is ready? This would bring everyone together.
There would be obvious obstacles, professors, staff, supplies, etc. but everyone working together could pull this off.
My daughter like everyone is devastated and at this point refuses to think about another school and if she could be together with friends and roommates then the inconveniences will be insignificant in the big picture.

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I think it is noble that we are all standing by Tulane and hoping for its speedy return-- I have to stress that just because we might make decisions to accept an education elsewhere in the meantime does not mean you've thrown in the towel on Tulane! These blogs aren't designed to guilt students into staying at Tulane when someone is offering us housing, free tuition, and meals at another institution! For those of us who lost homes, family businesses, and loved ones, a chance to continue our educations and get out of strangers' homes to school ANYWHERE is a blessing. As I read these updates, I have to wonder who is rallying students to "stick it out to the end, stand by tulane"? Are they people who can afford to miss an entire semester, watching somewhere from their parents homes? Because I know that from where I'm sitting, accepting a school's generous free tuition offer doesn't mean that I've "given up on a great school"--it means that I need a chance to start living again after this mess, so I'm taking it. We are diverse, remember that, some of us NEED the housing, food, and family that another school can provide. I just want to say that if you need to take other opportunities in the meantime, you're not a deserter!! For those of us who can't afford to wait and hope, there are places offering us a chance at a life and an education--and there's no shame in taking that.

7:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all you that somehow have this high opinion of Cowen, I have to really question your motives. This is the same man that tried to cut Division 1 sports from Tulane, only to change his mind and use the BCS solely for his own publicity purposes. This is the SAME man who won't live in the age old President's home in Audobon because he feels it wasn't safe, although noone before him has ever complained. Bottom line, this isn't the hero you guys are making him out to be. Let's get realistic, something Cowen certainly is not.

Did anyone else see him on MSNBC last night? He had the nerve to even state that he hoped to have Tulane up and running in 6-8 weeks. Should we put this guy in a mental hospital? Why does he not realize that Tulane is not some bubble inside the city of New Orleans. It has been WELL stated that noone will be allowed back into the city for 12-16 weeks. You can't operate a university in an abandoned city. After 3 months, then the rebuilding can begin. Cowen needs to sack up, admit this semester is a wash, and start telling people the truth. Contrary to what this blogger thinks, he's pushing people away with his bullshit, not keeping them here.

7:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was wondering if there have been any comments on whether Tulane would accept credits from other Universities towards one's major. I am a senior and the only classes I have left to take are ones required in order to complete my major. I want to graduate from Tulane no matter what, but I don't know whether to take classes somewhere else for the semester and return to Tulane in January or whether I should find something else productive to do for the semester. Thanks.

7:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the fraternities are there, freshmen will have their "freshmen experience" within the first two weeks of class. Although it's has some bad stigmas, it really does, in its own strange way, make the freshmen feel "initiated" into the party scene.... at least I did...

7:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said... you hate the president because you wish Tulane was better at sports and because he doesn't want to live in some house for the safety of his family

8:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with a little criticism of Cowen. He is a great man and has done wonders for the University, but he also has his past and present shortcomings. Past faults are insignificant in times like these. Presently, however, his extreme optimisim and idealistic outlook for Tulane and the semester is just misleading to many. The city of New Orleans may not be inhabitable for a year or longer, let alone a few weeks or months. Cowen should get realistic, let students know about the efforts the university is making to work with other universities around the nation to accommodate Tulane students. Tulane is a wonderful place to get an education, New Orleans is a one of a kind experience, but its time to get realistic.

That said, taking a semester off to figure out your life and help out with the relief and recovery efforts is far more productive than taking some classes at a local university.

Taking time off will allow students to wait and assess the situation no matter what happens with Tulane. I hate to be the one to throw it out there, but consider the possibility that Tulane University, at least housed in New Orleans may not be possible for years.

8:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with a little criticism of Cowen. He is a great man and has done wonders for the University, but he also has his past and present shortcomings. Past faults are insignificant in times like these. Presently, however, his extreme optimisim and idealistic outlook for Tulane and the semester is just misleading to many. The city of New Orleans may not be inhabitable for a year or longer, let alone a few weeks or months. Cowen should get realistic, let students know about the efforts the university is making to work with other universities around the nation to accommodate Tulane students. Tulane is a wonderful place to get an education, New Orleans is a one of a kind experience, but its time to get realistic.

That said, taking a semester off to figure out your life and help out with the relief and recovery efforts is far more productive than taking some classes at a local university.

Taking time off will allow students to wait and assess the situation no matter what happens with Tulane. I hate to be the one to throw it out there, but consider the possibility that Tulane University, at least housed in New Orleans may not be possible for years.

8:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that we should rally behind tulane, and utilize the decision that is made. I just hope that means keeping us all together, or at least by year, because I can't imagine a senior year without the amazing friends and spirit tulane students have shown me over the last three years. ROLL WAVE!

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I graduated from Tulane in 2000 and remember the Eamon Kelly years. Cowen is doing a fantastic job. We're lucky to have him. I hope all the incoming students stick with Tulane. Cowen will get it figured out, New Orleans will rebuild, and both the school and the city will be stronger than ever. Few cities steal your heart and soul the way the Big Easy does. It's a magical place. If NOLA could survive being managed by the French, it can survive Hurricane Katrina. I can't wait for Cowen to start letting alumni know where we can send contributions to the university. I've got my checkbook ready.

Ryan L
TC '00

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tulane, New Orleans and furture education is all I've been breathing lately. I get online, go on aim, and my friends and I talk nonstop about a backup plan. But regardless of what we say, we are still awaiting new from Dr. Cowen. The thing is, we don't want to split up, we don't want to be away from each other! Tulane campus is beautiful, but its the students and staff that makes the memories! And honestly, that's Tulane...its mostly in spirits and less physical. So wherever Tulane goes, I'll go and so will most Tulanians. We all bleed green through and through.

8:43 AM  
Anonymous Tulane Senior said...

For Christ's sake, I'm really tired of hearing that drinking at the Boot was the best thing about New Orleans, or the most defining experience you had at Tulane! That kind of attitude made the locals dislike us as much as they did. Drinking, which I personally do enjoy, was in no way the halmark of my time in New Orleans or at Tulane; most freshmen figure that out by the second semester, and its a disservice to those freshmen here to portray Tulane or New Orleans as a constant party.
While it's heartbreaking, I'm sure, to think that the hurricane might have damaged the Bruno's construction site, remember the real tragedy of Katrina: all those dead and dying in the filth of flood water. I'd also like to remind the freshmen, and any returning students that have never lived off campus, that not everyone, even at Tulane, has their home or possessions intact. Think about your fellow students who were born and raised on the Gulf Coast, Slidell, Kenner, or countless other neighborhoods in the city. They deserve your sympathy and kindess through this thing.
As important as this forum is for discussing our plans and feelings, seriously take a second to consider if you are being sensitive enough towards the genuine splendor and and actual tragedy that our city was and has become. Those at the Superdome and Convention center were perhaps not our friends,but they were our neighbors, our cashiers at WalMart, the people who picked up our garbage, who played their instruments for dollars downtown. They are the hard working people without whom neither New Orleans or Tulane would be possible. Being apart of Tulane is not living in a posh bubble surrounded by faceless strangers and bars. I think some God damned respect is due to those people whom we shared that great city with.

8:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Just to clarify, Dr. Cowen stated that Tulane could be up and running within 6 or 7 weeks, AS SOON AS the New Orleans infrastructure is improved. He did not say that Tulane will be open 6 or 7 weeks from this point in time. Please make sure your facts are straight before you begin your ranting and raving.

8:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to start by saying that this site has been very helpful and I am constantly on it to check for updates.
I graduated Tulane in 2000 and I can honestly say that I don't hear other students from other schools speak as highly (or as often) of their university president as we do at Tulane. Dr. Cowen has done an amazing job and I am confident that he will do everything he can to plan for the future.
Ok, so maybe it won't be possible to return for the semester. But for goodness sake, do NOT fault him for having hope. In a time like this, it's the only thing that most people have.
Everything that people have said about the Tulane magic is absolutely, 100% true and I will stand behind and love this school for the rest of my life.
All my hope and thoughts go out to all the victims in all the cities who have been affected by this terrible tragedy.

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read about you and your blog in the Daily Trojan here at the Univ. of So. Cal. My thoughts are with you and all those effected by Katrina.

9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have a student who is a sophmore. she absolutely loves tulane and new orleans. i am not sure what will happen next, but we are 110% behind tulane. there will be some changes this semester, but we need to have faith. we need to realize what has happened in the gulf coast area and in new orleans. we should all be greatful that we are either home or somewhere safe. i believe that Dr. Cowan will have a plan. it might be what everyone wants, but we will all make a decision that will be best for all of us. It might not be best for everyone, but whatever everyone does, we should not criticize them. it is very hard when little information is out there, and there is nobody from the university to guide us. I believe that Tulane will be strong again. I am just not sure how long it will take.

10:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How abouut everyone stop talking about "feasible" timelines and timeframes until they, and by they I mean the city officials and the military and governmental assistance, have the chance to shore the breeches and really get into the city. Then, they really do know how long it will take to drain the city, etc, and aren't just guessing. To do anything but that is laughable and unrealistic.

10:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I graduated from Tulane in 2004, and although I chose to go to school there on a whim I have to say it was perhaps the best and most life-changing experience I've ever had. Though I've since moved away, I have to say that both Tulane and New Orleans occupy a very special place in my heart. I never felt that President Cowen and the university as an institution cared anything less than very deeply for its student body, and the things I learned at Tulane and in New Orleans, both academically and personally, will stay with me for the rest of my life.

I have been devastated by this situation, I can only imagine what it must be like for those of you living it. But know that you have the love, help, and support of thousands like me that love the city and the school. And, as far as whatever plan Tulane's administration comes up with for the upcoming semester, I can tell you from experience that despite the difficult time, you all could not be in better hands. Hang in there.

10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I graduated from Tulane in 2004, and although I decided to go to school there on a whim I can say that it was perhaps the best and most life-changing experience I have ever lived. The things I learned during my tenure there, both academically and personally, have become a vital part of me. Although I have since moved away, both Tulane and New Orleans occupy an extremely special and important place in my heart.

I have been devastated watching this situation; I can only imagine what it must be like for those of you living it. But, know that you have the love, help, and support of thousands like me. And inasmuch as Tulane's plans for the next semester, I can say from experience that President Cowen and the rest of the faculty, administration, and staff care very deeply for their student body. Hang in there, you all could not be in better hands.

10:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am the parent of a Tulane junior. I am blessed that he was home during the hurricane, as he is spending the fall semester overseas. My heart goes out to the Tulane students and the city of New Orleans.

Tulane is a wonderful school and has tremendous students! God bless you all.

10:41 AM  
Anonymous Craig said...

Dear Students, Faculty, and Staff at Tulane, I am a student at Ball State University in eastern Indiana. For days now I have been watching coverage about the devistation caused by Katrina. Being a college student myself, I have been particularly interested to see how the college communities have been responding to this crisis. I have been truley amazed at the numerous positive comments posted on sites such as this. I want each of you to know that there are people all over the country that have been continually praying for each of your safety as well as for a quick recovery for your school. I personally feel helpless in that I see so many people in dire need of help, and I am thousands of miles away with no way to help. I do sincerely wish you the best in your recovery efforts and will continue to pray for your safety and wellbeing. ~Craig at BSU

10:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just letting all of the AB Freeman students know that Pamela Shaw who is involved in the Burkenroad Reports program wants the Burkenroad students and all other Freeman students to email her at to check in and give her your contact information because she is setting up a huge database of contact information of Freeman students.

10:53 AM  
Anonymous Tulane Alumni said...

I received this e-mail a little while ago, and though that the rest of the NY tulane people would want to know:

Hey, guys whats going everybody knows, katrina really has destroyed more than we thought it was capable of...being that i went to school down there, and had 4 great years there, i want to help in any way i and some friends from school have organized a fundraiser through the red cross. So on Wednesday, September 14th we are going to have a fund-raiser at Jacques Imos on the upper west side. I think it is gonna be $30 to get in, with Jacques supplying free food and drinks for the entire night. There will also be a silent and live auction for various trips, prizes, etc., with all admission fees and money collected to be donated to the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts in the dirty. Details to follow with an official invitation, but please start spreading the word...if any of you don't know what JacquieImos is, it was certainly my favorite restaurant down in new orleans, and about a year ago, the owner, Jacque, opened up his restaurant in NY...we feel it would be nice to
>have the fundraiser in a southern-new orleans should
>be fun, and certainly beneficial...hope to see you guys there...
>Wednesday, September 14
>Jacques-Imo's Cafe
>366 Columbus Avenue
>New York, NY

10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only gonna be a sophomore, but i call Tulane my home. So many memories my first year, there is no way i am gonna abandon Tulane. TULANE WILL OPEN! Roll Wave Roll

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have faith in Scott Cowen, I know he's not perfect, but I'm grateful for him none the less. I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything from the engineering community about if everyone's safe and what we might be doing. This site is great, thanks for the centralized info!

11:19 AM  
Anonymous jenell said...

Tulane was my first choice, and it will always be my first choice. I just want to get back and help rebuild the community that we all belong to. I may only be an incoming froshie, but just spending that weekend with all my fellow classmates at jackson state university made me realize what an experience this is. The class of 2009 should stick together and become a united front to get our school and town back to what it was.

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im going to be a freshman at tulane this year, and i have worked too hard to get into tulane, and then go to some other random school who will accept me in the meantime. I know I am lucky to be out of there, and i truely believe that, but Im definetly going to stick with tulane no matter what happens. although i only experienced tulane for a few hours before we got evacuated, i want millions and millions more, and it just wouldnt be the same anywhere else. Even though i havent begun tulane really, i can still feel the green running through my veins, and i refuse to let our great wave stop rolling. For all the freshman out there, stick with it if you can! our class will be stronger because of it, and if theres an oppurtunity for you to stick with tulane, take it, it would be the experience of a lifetime, and you dont just put those things to waste. kind of like a great university, your hope, your home, your blood. ROLL WAVE ROLL.

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