Saturday, September 03, 2005

If we don't graduate together I'm gonna cry...

Ok, this is going to be hard. Now that we have been faced with this decision to take classes or work or whatever you want to do, we need to talk about one important thing, graduation. If you haven't noticed, most of us seniors love each other. Sooooooo, when is graduation? Is there an inherent assumption that graduation has been postponed? Some people seem to want to graduate in the spring (I have no clue why anyone would want to go out into the working world), but what do we do about them?

I'm pretty set on staying for 2 more semesters, even if I take classes this semester. Why would I want to give up even one moment of the Tulane experience? So this posting isn't a call to action, because I realize that I have no right telling you what to do with your lives. However, I am going to cry if we don't graduate together, and that's the truth.

43 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really hope Tulane will allow us all to graduate in the spring with each other, even if we aren't done with coursework.

I can't take my 400-level classes and senior project while going in 2-4 weeks late (depending on the university), and if I am denied graduation with my peers, I don't know what I would do.

Either a delayed graduation to next December, letting us all graduate together in May, or giving us a full semester for the summer I would be fine with.

10:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

many people cant afford to take that extra semester of the tulane experience. not to mention, anyone with a scholarship only gets 4 years of scholarship, and since were paying tulane for this semester no matter what it seems like, those people have to finish in the 4 years.

10:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am WITH YOU! I am a senior at Tulane and I say, screw that, I am not going to some crappy university, pay full Tulane tuition, and then maybe/maybe not graduate on time. What is everyone's big hang-up? Just go a semester in the fall. You can still walk in the spring, you can still work this semester and next summer... it won't cost you any more. If you have a scholarship (as I do), I am sure they will let you have it next fall if you do not use it this fall! Tulane is awesome. Delaying entering the workforce for 1 semester will not kill you. In fact, it probably will give you an edge, if you use this semester working at a good job or internship or doing some good volunteer experience instead of just sitting at home and playing XBox. I say, get your full 8 semesters at Tulane.

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This isn't exactly on the topic, but an incredible number of short-term offers and options from other colleges and universities are listed here:

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/mb/jbrentzel?forum=29347

Many of them are extremely generous and indicate lots of options to attend school elsewhere without charge or at no extra cost than would have been the case at Tulane.

6:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is Tulane going to specifically address the status of seniors? Can they graduate "early" --if so exactly how many credits are required?
The implication from Official Tulane statements is that they intend to keep your tuition even if you were to attend a different institution that cost less and the courses might not be accepted by Tulane.
Why is Tulane trying to GOUGE its students?
Seniors need answers NOW--
--can seniors graduate "early" with the Tulane credits they've already earned?
--Will tuition be refunded if the student doesn't attend classes this semester?
--Will Tulane tuition be refunded if the student attends an institution that is far cheaper?
Tulane official statements are leaving questions about courses and tuition open to interpretation.

6:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

has anyone thought of the alternative option of taking courses online while working/traveling?

Many schools are offering online courses including Harvard, UMass, Etc...

Just to list a few... -
http://www.sloansemester.org/
http://www.umassonline.net/
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/
http://www.rsuonline.edu/

7:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the requirement that seniors take a certain amount of their final credits at Tulane? Will this be waived for those who take courses at other institutions so they can return to Tulane and graduate in the Spring?

7:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes I am in a similar situation. I am a Finance Major. I have completed my LAS requirements, Business Core, Finance Requirements, and Finance electives. The only things that are left are 4 general Business electives (2 of which can be general LAS) and that Mgmt. Policy class for Seniors. Would I be able to graduate early like right now? I was due to graduate in December 2005 anyways.

7:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to Tulane for a reason, and there is no way I am going to give up a semester of my senior year. My roommates and I decided along with some other friends, that we are all graduating in december 06, so we will be together, no matter what the university does.

9:28 AM  
Anonymous DeAnna Burns said...

I already had to sit out a semester due to meningitis and now am in my last semester. Therefore, I'm not graduating with many from my class anyhow. So I will be finishing my last semester at LSU. Even though this really makes me sad and I've cried and cried about it, I have no other choice. I have a job offer for December but only if I graduate in December. I need this. Only one problem. I don't know what classes will fullfill my requirements because the freeman site is down. Anyone have checksheets or found one or a list somewhere for me to review?

9:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that a good idea would to have everyone who was on schedule to graduate in May, walk in May and have a graduation ceremony. I know right now its 50/50 with people taking classes or working. If we can get everyone from our class to "graduate" together I think that would be awesome. Even if some people had not completed everything by May it would be nice to all be together, or even have it next Decemeber (I think that our class should graduate together and not wait until May 07 bc then it would be 2 classes.... no offense to 07, i love you guys but i would like to be just with my class). The only problem with Decemeber is if people have jobs it may be hard.... plus I dont know how people would feel about waiting 6-7 months to "graduate". I would just like to be with my class even if that means I have to wait 10 years and have the graduation ceramony in the middle of nowhere (ok that's a little much), but let's just wait and see what is offered.... I have heard that Cowen wants us to be together in May for graduation... we will just have to wait and see

9:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will there be a graduation in May?
As a senior this is my main concern and how do I get there is my question? I wish to support Tulane and New Orleans as the past 3 years have been everything that I could have wished for. However I like everyone else needs some guidance as to how to achieve my personal goal-graduation on time and how to lend support to my school and the city of New Orleans. I dont know if the administration is keeping tabs on these blogs but I am hopeful that they are and can develop a way to establish the communication necessary to allow us as students to fulfull our goals and also allow us to support the Tulane community and the City of New Orleans. Our return as senior students in Jan is a plus for everyone. I think most will return to contribute if we are somehow assured that we will achieve our personal goals-namely graduation! Give us the guidance and reassurance we need to accomplish this for the good of all!

10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW ORLEANS HAS ALREADY POSTED INFORMATION REGARDING TUITION, HOUSING AND COURSE TRANSFER REQUIREMENTS. GET WITH IT TULANE AND STOP WITH THE SWEET TALK THANKING US FOR OUR LOYALTY TO TULANE. WE WANT THE FACTS! IF YOU CAN'T GET IT TOGETHER THEN HIRE A CRISIS MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT CAN GET IT DONE.

http://www.uno.edu/faq.html

11:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree - I am so sick of Cowen's comments regarding how happy he is with the loyalty that has been shown to Tulane and blah, blah, blah. That was fine for day one. Show us your leadership abilities Dr. Cowen and provide some answers. If you can't, then say so. Don't string us along anymore.

11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with brett 100 percent, why would anyone want to miss a semester in new orleans and at tulane, we are the luckiest kids in the country, being able to attend a school like tulane, no one will ever understand what its like except us, if you can, i think taking a semester off and working is the best thing to do, or travel, i hope to see everyone there when tulane opens its doors once again

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am an academic administrator who has been following the story of what is happening at Tulane and other effected colleges in the area. While I cannot speak for any college's specific policies, perhaps I can share the perspective and items they may be contemplating.

1) Many specific programs are accredited by a professional organization - and the maintainance of that accreditation relies on the schools ability to maintain standards. One would hope that accrediting boards would show flexibility - but it is surely too soon to tell. So if you are in an accredited major (ie: Business is governed by AACSB) - then you are wise to take classes from a program with the same credentials. Again - no guarantee of transfer credits - but my educated guess is that you've increased your chances greatly.

2) Many schools have policies about X number of classes being done there, or the final X number of classes be done there. This is usually done to ensure, that under REGULAR circumstances, students have received the bulk of their education from the degree granting school; and/or that someone doesn't leave a semester early for a job and misses out on capstone courses, etc. These are hardly regular circumstances - and I'm sure each division of the college is assessing how far these rules can be broken. And I'd guess they'll be bent to accomodate as many students as reasonably possible.

3) as for payments - give them some time to sort it out. While broad policies are stated now, I think everyone will soon realize that each situation is individual and will need to be handled as such. I think the spirit of the message of asking host schools to offer Tulane students a "free semester" was to encourage students to continue their education now. Interuption in education can somtimes mean an end, and no educator wants that for any of you. They need a chance to prove themselves to be fair - but I wholly understand your frustration when it is your money on the line.

It seems like you all come from a very close-knit community - and I have no doubts that this will only make you all stronger in the end. Bless you all.

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its true that it's really nervewracking not knowing what's going to happen with credits transferring, etc. I have kind of a specific question if anyone has an answer. The UC system is based on quarters instead of semesters, would those credits transfer well? would our gpas transfer? I am a senior and would also like to know how these transfer credits fit into the whole graduation scheme. I want to graduate at tulane and would not mind graduating a semester late but i want to know if its even going to be worth it to take classes at a University of California school for the time being.

1:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does anyone have any insight into attending a school on the quarters system, ie- University of Washington. the school has expressed support and are accepting Tulane students, but i am just worried about quarter vs. semester classes transfer over when i return to Tulane.

2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand that these are hard times for the Tulane community. Although, in the grand scheme of things, missing a semester isn't that bad. Why don't we cry first about the thousands of bodies lying in the streets of our city?

4:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know th

4:40 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

I agree... It's hard to focus on these issues. They do have to be dealt with- but they should not be Tulane's first concern.

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you know what? I thought I had a mutual love at first sight situation at Tulane and now I don't know if he'll come back. I'm not kidding. it was sweet.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Situations like that have affected everyone. The city as we have known it has changed. Hopefully, we can all pull together and support each other as human beings. The city we go back to is up to us. Let's make miracles possible.

6:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with the talk of going to some crappy university? I love Tulane and New Orleans, but being able to attend Rice for a semester isn't exactly a slap in the face.

For some people it's really important to graduate on time, either financially, professionally, and/or even personally.

1:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am also a senior at tulane (supposed to be finished in december). In order to get certain prereqs for grad school, I have to take classes elsewhere this fall. If I am going to have to pay Tulane for this semester, does anyone know if we'll at least be able to still receive our financial aid?

12:02 PM  
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Blogger Susan Hopkins said...

Contact: John Diamond (973-3224 or 949-4904) or Peggy Markson (973-3245)

UNIVERSITY OF MAINE SYSTEM OFFERS ASSISTANCE TO STUDENTS AFFECTED BY
HURRICANE KATRINA

BANGOR - Chancellor Joseph W. Westphal today announced the following
efforts being undertaken by the University of Maine System to assist
students who have been affected by Hurricane Katrina. The information
was communicated to Governor John E. Baldacci earlier Friday morning.

Any student - from Maine or from any other state - currently enrolled in
a college or university that postponed or terminated classes due to
hurricane-related damage or conditions are invited to enroll at one of
Maine's seven universities under "visiting student" status. This offer
applies to any undergraduate or graduate student enrolled at any
accredited institution in the regions affected by the hurricane.

Such students will be allowed to enroll without having to follow the
usual application process and will be offered in-state tuition rates,
given the unique conditions under which they would be enrolling.
University personnel will work with each student to identify the most
appropriate option for them within the University System.

For both current University of Maine System students who are from the
hurricane-affected region and for those who enroll as "visiting
students," the University System will provide whatever accommodations
are appropriate to assist them with health, housing, counseling, and
temporary financial needs.

Students in need of assistance are encouraged to contact the University
System at 1-800-804-3200, ext. 3237, or through the World Wide Web at
gshaw@maine.edu.

In addition, Maine's public universities will be working with their
student and employee clubs, teams, and organizations to support
humanitarian aid and other relief efforts.

Established in 1968, the University of Maine System is the state's
largest educational entity, with more than 34,300 students enrolled. It
features seven universities -- some with multiple campuses -- located
across the state, as well as 11 University College outreach centers and
more than 100 interactive distance education sites. For more
information, log onto http://www.maine.edu.

7:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

good call on the UMaine system... I'd recommend the Orono campus if anybody's actually looking into this. I'm from Maine and UMO is an awesome school. Also, the in-state tuition is only about $10,000... that's less than 1/4 of what we are paying at Tulane. I won't lie, it's not quite as fun as New Orleans, but, then again, nothing really is...

6:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bates College has announced that any Maine undergraduates enrolled at colleges or universities in the New Orleans and Mississippi Gulf Coast area devastated by Hurricane Katrina will be welcome to take courses for credit without charge at Bates College this fall semester.

"We don't know how many Maine students this might apply to, but we are confident that we can make room in classes for them," said Bates President Elaine Tuttle Hansen.

Students who planned to attend colleges and universities that have been closed in the devastated areas of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama can apply for emergency admission as visiting students by contacting the Dean of Students Office at 207-786-6219. Room and board will be the students' responsibility, but Bates will assist in finding accommodations.

The tuition offer, said Hansen, is consistent with Bates' mission of academic achievement and social responsibility.

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